Whenever we're shown pictures of the pyramids of Giza they tend to leave out the parts where there's a sea of humanity right next to them.

@starwall imagine working in an office with a window seat to one of the greatest human achievements while you file reports for some asshole

@Red imagine working in the Pizza Hut with a view of the pyramids

@starwall i think i would quickly come to hate them tbh

@Red yeah I think they'd get old real fast (haha get it, because they're the pyramids, they're old)

@starwall Westerners: ”what is that grey stuff around the pyramids?, I guess I’ll just photoshop them out, lol”

@Odi @starwall There's no need to photoshop anything, just turn your back to the town and aim slightly up so the tourists don't show into frame. Getting a nice shot of the Sphinx is a bit trickier, though.

@jkb @Odi @starwall it’s the urban sprawl of cairo. it wasn’t there 25 years ago. photos without it are just old.

@ox @Odi @starwall The pyramids of Giza are named after the town of Giza, which is not exactly new even though it has increased in size over time. What's convenient for pictures is the fact that the pyramids are on a plateau where building is prohibited, if you stand northeast of Khufu and aim southwest you can have the three large pyramids in frame and make it look like it's entirely surrounded by desert. [source: I did exactly that in 2012, less than 25 years ago]

@jkb right, 25+ years ago it would have been lush green farm land that you’d have to strategically photograph around for that mystical arid desert look

@ox The lush green farm land is still there, along the valley. The plateau was dry and will stay dry as long as it stays a plateau. West and south of the pyramids was always a desert, north and east was always a fertile valley. That's how valleys work in that part of North Africa.

[source: I come from that part of North Africa]

@starwall Something something "The curious result was that frontier nostalgia became an important vehicle for expressing a peculiarly bourgeois form of antimodernism. The very men who most benefited from urban-industrial capitalism were among those who believed they must escape its debilitating effects. If the frontier was passing, then men who had the means to do so should preserve for themselves some remnant of its wild landscape so that they might enjoy the regeneration and renewal that came from sleeping under the stars, participating in blood sports, and living off the land. The frontier might be gone, but the frontier experience could still be had if only wilderness were preserved." something something

If people saw Cairo in all the pictures of the pyramids of giza they'd lose the mystique that bourgeois tourists are seeking from them.

It'll be interesting if the urban sprawl is ever allowed to envelop them.

It'd be more honest to the plight of the people of modern Egypt that way.

@marsxyz @GreenandBlack @starwall Uh… the town right next to the great pyramids is not a slum. What makes you think otherwise?

@jkb @starwall @GreenandBlack I thought ot was Cairo slum suburbs.

I guess I'm wrong. Then it would even be better

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Architecture that is built with desert climate in mind that doesn't involve huge wasteful yards of lawngrass perhaps?

@starwall @marsxyz @GreenandBlack Haha yes maybe this and the fact that urban planning and building codes are way less strict than what we're used to in Europe. It looks chaotic and it certainly is dusty, but it's no slum.

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Hot take: use all that empty sand in the middle of the city as a testing ground for desert agroforestry

@starwall and also, all that pollution actually erodes the sandstone is the thing. they've lasted so long due to the climate being so dry and empty mostly, but the massive growth of Cairo and the unregulated urban sprawl, combined with the infrastructure to support that like cars ect, are gonna wear the things down

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