NoooOOOOOO!! NO FUCK OFF. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE
I thought I might have been safe
Thank god the entire industry hasn't decided to revolve around Blink/Chromium for 95% of the web's browser traffic, or else Google would have an unlimited ability to push forward whatever bullshit standard they wanted.
Wait hold on, my producer is telling me something [places finger on my ear piece]
@radicalrobit oh good, not enough of the internet has been ruined by amp yet
We consider AMP an attempt by Google to take control over the web. Now they want to control your inbox too. Email is not an app platform or ad platform, it is a communication medium. We have no plans currently to support this and it means that you will receive just normal emails as usual. The best way to stop email from being colonized by Google is to use privacy-conscious alternatives and tell others to do the same. 😉
The problem is four fold:
1. Part of the problem is psychological. It's weird to see an email address that *isn't* either a corporate or a Gmail account.
2. It's not just Gmail that needs to be replicated it's Google Docs and Voice.
3. Rock solid migration tools (to and from) any given alternative are a must.
4. There need to be selling points other than "privacy" which is (sadly) invisible to the end user.
@jrswab @radicalrobit We've just published a more elaborate comment on why AMP for emails is bad: https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/amp-email-bad-idea
Thanks for asking! 👍
"Google now claims that because emails are static, they are bad. But the opposite it true: Only because emails are static, they can function as a replacement of a letter - even in a legal sense. Making it dynamic would destroy this benefit of emails."
@radicalrobit fuck off AMP
@radicalrobit time to jump ship to something old and shitty enough it won't add this
@woomy pretty soon your BBS client will be supporting AMP. Your usenet newsgroups? AMP. Your mIRC client? Also AMP.
@radicalrobit nooooo :'<
It's almost like it was on purpose...
@radicalrobit if the webmail client i use tries to support this i will
i don't know what i'll do but i'll be mad about it
@aflightybroad Gmail, Outlook.com, Yahoo and Mail.ru will all support it.
@radicalrobit i've been hopping between edison as an app and protonmail and rainloop on ~the web~ while migrating off gmail so like: none of these are those, but ALSO, i'm worried they'll follow the leaders, you know, bc everyone else is.
@aflightybroad I doubt very much protonmail or any other privacy oriented email providers will support AMP. Especially since every listed reason in the article is for ad tracking.
@radicalrobit this is what I hope I am just also nervous
@AngryCvilleian It's basically an entire standard that google gets to control because of how it delivers content. That alone is bad enough.
You can read about why AMP is bad for the web here https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/19/open_source_insider_google_amp_bad_bad_bad/ but there's also other articles you could read.
Really in this instance AMP is bad for email specifically because it's an advertiser's wet dream, they get to integrate interactive content in your fucking email like purchase pages and scrollable embedded sites.
I don't know what AMP is, but this looks unsafe.
@radicalrobit I know the implication is "fast as lightning" but I cant help but think the header image there is appropriate as AMP email brings the end times
@radicalrobit hi i have no idea what amp is why is it bad
@radicalrobit than ku!
@radicalrobit OH is AMP that thing that makes it impossible for me to copy links while im looking shit up on mobile
I don't know what this means.
So I just assume Google sold my account to hackers and killed a dog.
Here's an animation they made to demo the feature. Look at this shit!
That is an animation of an app running inside an email, where the user clicks to respond to a comment thread, to say "yes that's correct"
... INSTEAD OF JUST REPLYING TO THE EMAIL to say "yes, that's correct". 😡 And this is the example they picked to make the feature look good??
The whole computer industry needs to be sent back to 1999 and forced to do the last 20 years over again.
@radicalrobit It's bloatware for the web and now in email as well.
I never used gmail so it does not directly affect me. HTML/AMP whatever emails without proper plain text will just be ignored.
@radicalrobit disroot.org is pretty good
@radicalrobit the only thing that email should support besides plain text is markdown. not HTML and especially not AMP
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