The revolution is inherently ableist and still fucking necessary and we have no choice but to reckon with that


We cannot uproot the social fabric without interrupting some of the delicate lifelines miserly afforded to our most vulnerable by a society that does not truly value them. It is our responsibility to see these people, to uplift them and to put them at the forefront, because the revolution is for them. And some will still fall through the cracks. The nature of destabilization and revolt is that it hits the most vulnerable the hardest.

When our revolution comes it will not be perfect, but it will be better

@Aleums and afterwards we're still going to have to reckon with the people who made the decisions of whom to sacrifice and hold them accountable. "it was for the revolution" cannot be a defense, even if it is accurate

@Aleums Nobody emerges from a revolution with clean hands

But it's still worth it

@Aleums and it's why the most vulnerable folks must lead the revolution as we strive to protect those leaders, those voices

@Aleums this chaotic concept of revolution is how you get dictators btw
@it_wasnt_arson @Aleums

dictators take advantage of power vacuums all the time. i'm not saying don't try to change stuff. obviously the path we're on is fucked. we don't need to open up that option. we can just leave. in like family groups. people take care of each other. we need simple tech, easy to understand schematics and plans. some very able people involved, but we don't need to adopt the concept of disability from default. let's take care of our families, right?

@xj9 @Aleums Not everyone can afford to leave. Not everyone has a family. Individual action is useless.

@it_wasnt_arson @Aleums

well that's the challenge, isn't it? it is a fairly tractable problem though. intentional communities are hard, but doable. there are a good number of examples of this in the recent past AND the failure states are not too painful.

family is a subjective thing imo. its the people you love, not necessarily the people you're related to.

hackers can be powerful :heart_cyber: possibly more so in clumps

@xj9 @it_wasnt_arson @Aleums
Could you elaborate on your 'just leave in small, tight-knit groups' idea? For example, how would such low-tech, small groups make insulin?

@Passiflora_Caerulea @Aleums @it_wasnt_arson

to clarify: low-tech and simple tech are different. so easy to use/make, not necessarily near the bottom of the tech tree.

i'm personally focused on making tools to organize and share information, but there is a group called Four Thieves Vinegar that is working on making DIY medicine.

they don't have a process for insulin, but they've proven that they can make safe medicine cheaply with their current projects. so its not like we're ready for this yet, but there are several groups moving in this direction already.

sunshine gardens is meant to evolve into an off-grid trailer park / low impact research facility for further development of walkaway tech. basically a prototype of what we think future eco-villages can look like.

we expect the prototype phase will be difficult, but we want this kind of thing to be accessible to as many people as possible. so the standards for founders and future users will differ until we have a bootstrap plan of some kind worked out.

@xj9 @it_wasnt_arson @Aleums
I... I had never heard about any of this... thank you so much for taking the time to share these resources! I will look into them ASAP!

@xj9 @it_wasnt_arson @Aleums Oh btw, what's your opinion on Low->Tech Magazine? I've been meaning to buy the printed website & start tinkering for some time now

@Passiflora_Caerulea @Aleums @it_wasnt_arson

i think lowtech mag is cool. i think the term is confusing, but i like what they're about.

@Aleums many revolutionary movements have, at one point or another, sooner or later, necessarily set up community kitchens, community medical centres, seized medicines, occupied wings of hospitals, to protect and care for those most vulnerable. The history is consistent and demonstrable. The task is to make it our first order of business, not our last.

The question of how to care for people during times of disruption and upheaval has been the throughline of my political development.

@turtlebirb @Aleums the task of the revolution is to replace all of society that was once relied upon, *including* resources for disabled people

@Aleums I prickle at the idea of reducing this to "revolution is inherently ableist" as if folks with disabilities are not themselves already theorizing and involved in revolutionary movements. I literally have an article about community based disability disaster prep activists in the magazine rack in my bathroom.

@turtlebirb I agree that I could have chosen my words better and I hoped that the spirit might come through in my elaborations

@turtlebirb I absolutely do a disservice to disability activists by implying that their efforts are counterproductive

@Aleums yeah, I'm sore on this point because I recently encountered Tiqqun's argument that the revolution is ableist and because of this people with disabilities are inherently counter-revolutionary

@turtlebirb I recognized this line of thinking and tried to backpedal. So it goes when you post in the heat of the moment

@turtlebirb and I am grateful for all the people who replied to me with their own perspectives, especially you because you're cool and always have good things to say

@Aleums aw thanks! I try to stay considered.

I'm pretty sure we're on the same page, all told.

Did you ever see the link I posted a while back to my friend's article in Commune magazine? It's on basically exactly this.

@turtlebirb I did not and as a matter of fact I think it's exactly what I want to read right now

@Aleums it's one of my favourite articles she's written. Among its many virtues, it also subtly brings in some recent arguments about how the labour movement can no longer be the foundation of a contemporary revolutionary communist movement (because the labour movement has never known what to do with the lumpenproletariat, because "dignity in labour" cannot be a rallying cry to organise those who recognise that in a just society their jobs wouldn't exist, etc...)

@turtlebirb a really strong point an an excellent quote to highlight on the page of the article.

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